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John Wilke K9RZZ
10-30-2007, 06:30 PM
I put up my new Weingard 6065P FM antenna. 10 elements on a 10 1/2 ft boom.


It's on a 30 ft Radio Shack push up mast that's mounted through the roof and bolted to the attic floor (where the rotator is). When the wind dies down (hopefully) near sunset, I'll push it up about another 10 ft.

It's been up less and 2 hours now, and I've logged one new station already! :)
(WMMA Nekoosa, WI 18kw at 129 miles).

I had an Antennacraft FM6 up there and was very pleased with it. However, when I first hooked up this one, the first thing I had to do was put in the attenuator on my Icom R7100. Whoa. :o This thing really hears.

I bought it from Stark who's webpage says that they are sold out. I think I'm going to have to try and find another one. At $79, it's a bargain.

The plan is to put, under it, a stacked pair of old 19 element beams for 2m SSB that I've got here ready to go. I've got about 60 grids confirmed on 2 and need 40 more for the VUCC award. When that's accomplished, hopefully in 2 years, the whole thing is comming down in favor for a monster 6 meter antenna. :D


John Wilke K9RZZ
10-30-2007, 08:13 PM
Okay, so I just pushed it up another 6 feet.


Every time I go up there, the wind picks up! :mad:

Now, back in the basement, I tune around, Chicago is booming in, WNUR 89.3 is in there with fair sigs (tough one here), then turn the beam southwest ... !! ... WDLM East Moline, IL at 164 miles ... SOLID. Whoa. :eek:

Well that nails it, new plan. :cool:

Screw 2 meters this winter. I'm getting another one of these while I still can (no longer made), gonna stack the two, push the mast up the last 6 feet (6 more feet!) and guy the bugger out of it.


Watch out DX, here I come.

John Wilke K9RZZ
10-31-2007, 10:47 AM
4 new ones in the log:

92.9 WRPW Colfax, WI 6kw @ 174mi
92.9 WCNF Benton Harbor, MI 2.2kw @ 100mi
93.9 WMMA Nekoosa, WI 18kw @ 129mi
95.3 WRKX Ottawa, IL 4.3kw @ 118mi

Just found another outlet for the Winegard HD6065P - Swiden Dist. (It's discontinued you know, and the replacement 6055 is smaller, so get 'em while you can) ... so I ordered a second one and am going to stagger stack the two.

I'm wishing I lived out in the boonies so I could hook up my preamp ... but I've got so much signal now that half the time I've got the attenuator in. I'm confident that if the band opens, I'll hear 'em. Just gotta keep keen on conditions.

236 stations in the log with very few openings, mostly flat conditions, only 2 E's openings ... LOTS of room in the log yet.

You only live once ... go BIG or go home! :laughing:

John Wilke K9RZZ
11-08-2007, 05:10 AM
Got the second one ... still in the box, but I GOT one. Maybe this weekend I can get 'er up there.

11-08-2007, 11:27 PM
My wife hates it when I read posts about antennas! It makes me dream about some way to fit something else on the roof - or possibly try an antenna in the attic. Reading your post on the Winegard FM antenna is particularly interesting right now because I just re-hooked up my audio equipment for the first time since moving in this house last year. My CM VHF antenna does ok on FM, but I'm pretty sure a dedicated FM antenna would beat it - plus I wouldn't have to unhook the CM from the TV or set top box. Please keep posting your results.

John Wilke K9RZZ
11-11-2007, 03:52 PM
Well, all week I was looking forward to this weekend so I could get the second antenna up! Oh boy! Mid-week I made up the phasing cables and sealed them up with JB Weld like I showed on my F connector thread ... today I was ready to go. :laughing:

I went out to the front porch where UPS dropped the box off and ....

and .... :eek:

Swiden sent me a 6055 ... NOT a 6065 !! :banghead:


Now I have two different antennas ... I can't stack two different antennas. I don't want to downsize to the 6055, and good luck to me finding another 6065 since Winegard stopped making them.

What I have to do is start emailing everybody I can find to see if someone still has one in stock. If anyone has any leads ... pass them along.

Project on hold. :(

John Wilke K9RZZ
11-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Update: I was given a lead via the FMTUNERS email list that a shop in Calif. had 'em. I called and they had one which I bought. ( "You're calling from WHERE ?? :confused: ) I haven't seen it yet, but I hope it's the right antenna.


John Wilke K9RZZ
11-26-2007, 02:57 PM



It should be the right antenna in the box because it's longer than the other with the 6055.

I'm not sure about the stagger stacking because it's going to really upset the balance of the antenna. I'm going to push to just get them both up there stacked normally and then guy the snot out of it. I can think about staggering over the winter while I'm logging all that great FM DX.


[Oh, you know there will be pictures of the final stack!]

John Wilke K9RZZ
11-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Okay, here's the update but let me side track a little first.

Back when I discovered that I had two different antennas, I didn't want to sit idle and do nothing after making up that nice phasing harness. So what I did was put two AntennaCraft FM6's side by side on a low pole to see how that would work. This was modeled by K6STI and you can read about that here:




I found the pattern to be just like the diagram, but mine was only about 20 ft high, so it was hard to really put it to the test.

Anyway, that was the phasing harness I needed for my 6065's so that stack had to come down today to put up the BIG one. http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/images/smiles/biggrin.gif


The second antenna went up smoothly which I was good since it's only about 35 F today. I just eyeballed the distance between the two, and it can be easily changed since it's all on a telescoping mast. I couldn't find any info on the web about the proper separation, so I emailed Winegard. We'll see what they have to say. I can still raise the whole thing another 10 feet higher, but for now I think I'm going to leave it where it is. I don't want to push my luck.


Initial testing is very encouraging. I've only been using it for about an hour, but it seems to be performing about a notch higher than the single antenna. The higher power stations in Chicago, all 70 to 90 miles away are SOLID. The band seems rather flat today, not unusual in the cold, but Michigan stations are mostly audible with fading, and right now I'm listening to WDLM, 89.3 East Moline, IL at 160 miles in and out regularly with good sigs when it's in. That's a pretty good haul over some hilly terrain.

It will take some time to really test it, but so far ... I like it! Loggings and audio clips comming soon.


John Wilke K9RZZ
11-30-2007, 10:17 AM
Two new ones last night.

107.5 WDUZ Brillion, WI 3.6kw @ 98 miles running the Packers game.

and what sounds like the same Spanish pirate on 99.9 but at a different beam heading and much stronger signals. Identifying (in Spanish) as WMPC which is an AM only station out of Flint, MI. THey ran until about 1am with an open carrier since (and now). Gonna have to track that one down! :) The old 99.9 pirate ran the same call, but the ID sounded different.

This is gonna be fun.


John Wilke K9RZZ
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
This is getting lengthy, I know, but I just received an email from Winegard regarding the stacking of these two antennas. I hope this will help others as well.

- - - -

Dear John,

Stacking 2 HD6065P antennas in the same direction for gain you would mount
them 72" apart vertically from boom to boom. The phasing line will be 52"
long each +/- 1/8" of each other in length. The phasing lines will feed a
CC-7870 coupler to combine the signals. Your single output is now you

Hans Rabong
Tech. Service Manager.
Winegard Company

John Wilke K9RZZ
02-10-2008, 06:54 AM
I moved all those pics to a different folder ... I'll fix 'em soon.


John Wilke K9RZZ
05-02-2008, 12:49 AM
Band has been real flat lately, but I am hearing WGNJ St. Joseph, IL, 197 miles due south right over WNUR Chicago, 63 miles away.

Good to know that they are still working!

:cool: :laughing:

07-09-2008, 10:14 PM
Hi John. I'm reading your thread from a while back and in the hope that you're still wondering around, I'm thinking, if you still have that 6055 boxed up, I'd be a taker. I currently use a FM6 that I acquired a few weeks ago but upon goggling for relatively small antennas (given my very limited space), discovered that Wineguard makes an antenna 12 inches longer-boom than mine with a few more elements, and not too expensive at that.

So I'm looking to IMPORT one into Canada considering that there aren't that many sellers around here. So if you're looking to part with yours and can handle taking it to a post office for an internal shipment, I'll take care of it.

73, Denis, Montreal

John Wilke K9RZZ
07-31-2008, 06:00 AM
Thanks for your kind offer, but I'll hang on to it. Other than stubbing my toe on the box once and a while, it's not in the way and I'll find a use for it eventually. I was actually thinking of taking it to one of the high hilltops around here to see what I can hear. Thanks though!

Just an update: they are still up and still work great! Wish I had more time to spend with them, but I do listen to a lower power station 35 miles away on a regular basis that's almost impossible to hear on other radios/antennas. No complaints from me!