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indysteve
11-09-2013, 11:32 AM
I noticed earlier this week while perusing the Warren Electronics website, that they still had some CS1100s in stock, but only 7 left. Since the Winegard HD5030 Prostar VHF-only antenna is now history, this appears to be one of the last remaining chances to purchase a new MONSTER VHF-only antenna. I spoke to local DXer Mike G. about this opportunity and he too was interested in one. So I called Warren Elec. and was told that they were actually down to 2 remaining units in stock. So I told her to hold them and I would make a road trip from Indy to Moline, IL, 305 miles one-way, and pick up both antennas. So I drove to Moline and back on Thursday to pick them up. I drove a van so the 9 ft. 4 in. long boxes would fit inside the vehicle. While I was there at the store they told me that they had found two more units in stock, so when I left Thursday afternoon that was the latest inventory count.

The Antennacraft CS1100 is a monster with a boom length of 180 inches, or 15 feet. Here's the website page at Warren Elec if anyone is interested. If you are interested, you must pick it up at their store because UPS and FedEx will no longer ship boxes that long (9 ft. 4 in.). http://www.warrenelectronics.com/antennas/cs1100.htm

Due to possible winter ice storms here in the Midwest, Mike and I will be storing the antennas until around April. I'd hate to have an ice storm break off elements before I even had a good chance to use it for Es (fingers crossed that this area will have some Es in 2014).

Antennacraft CS1100 specs http://www.antennacraft.net/pdfs/CS1100.pdf

Winegard HD5030 specs http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=hd-5030&d=winegard-hd-5030-prostar-1000-vhf%2Ffm-tv-antenna-(hd-5030)&sku=615798398156

And, yes, I must be nuts about DXing to drive over 600 miles in one day to pick up two TV antennas! :D

Danny
11-09-2013, 12:00 PM
Steve, isn't that the same VHF antenna Ed uses?

I am a believer in big VHF antennas. Most of my VHF DX was received on fifteen-plus-foot long VHF-only antennas.

NN2E
11-09-2013, 01:27 PM
Hey Steve, I'm surprised those antennas were still there. I checked around, quite a while ago, to see if I could find some of them and I did. There were some in Moline and a few more at a store down in Alabama. I thought about making the trip to 'Bama to go get those but decided not to.

I've got lots of old antenna carcasses / parts lying around so, when the day comes, I'm just going to build my own VHF antenna out of them.

Don't be surprised if you have to do some work on the CS-1100 before you install it. Mine had one of the phasing wires installed incorrectly. It was shorted against the other one. I also had to make some minor repairs to some of the element-to-boom insulators. It pays to give the antenna a thorough once-over before installing it.

The modified P-7 on top...

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...with the CS-1100 underneath.

73, Ed NN2E
Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds

cd637299
11-09-2013, 02:58 PM
ISTR Fernando Garcia in Monterrey driving to San Antonio to pick up a parabolic UHF antenna---that drive may have been about 305 miles each way as well; it turned out to be the wisest drive he ever made....

http://www.tvdxtips.com/garcia.html

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Danny
11-09-2013, 03:15 PM
Fernando also had a giant CM Quantum 1110 VHF antenna, which probably came from San Antonio, as well.

In looking at Fred's Distance Records page, it is obvious that the trip(s) to San Antonio were worth the time and effort:
http://www.wtfda.org/kj4bug/dxstats/TVRECDIS.htm

indysteve
11-09-2013, 04:48 PM
Thanks to all for the feedback. And for the close-up pic of your antennas, Ed. The CS-1100 makes the 7-foot P-7 look small.

I still have my Winegard YA-1026 http://www.starkelectronic.com/wya1026.htm , for VHF low band @ 160 inches. At the moment, I'm thinking that I'll mount the CS-1100 on the tower just below my Finco P-7, as Ed has done. I have a swing-down mast (installed and used prior to crank-up tower) which would be a good place to mount the YA-1026 during next year's Es season so I can conduct some reception comparisons between the two. The swing-down mast is currently holding a CM Stereo Probe 9 for FM.

Danny, since you too live in a metro area with lots of strong FM and TV signals, do you use a preamp on your VHF low band antenna(s) or do you simply DX channels 2-6 without an amplifier (raw signal from the antenna)? I've tried it both ways here several times with various preamps and it seems very difficult to decide which way to go as sometimes reception seems better WITH a preamp and other times it seems better WITHOUT! Next spring when I first install both antennas I'll probably try both of them WITHOUT a preamp, then maybe add a preamp to one of them for a test. I have found that using the Radio Shack FM trap has helped with some nearby FM signal interference, especially on channel 6.

NN2E
11-10-2013, 02:54 AM
"Due to possible winter ice storms here in the Midwest, Mike and I will be storing the antennas until around April. I'd hate to have an ice storm break off elements before I even had a good chance to use it for Es (fingers crossed that this area will have some Es in 2014)."

To show you what Steve's talking about we go back to the ice storm of late January 2009...

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..and the previous VHF antenna (Antennacraft MXV-5100) just before the front half of it broke off and crashed to the ground. Eventually, most of the rear elements broke off, too.

73, Ed NN2E
Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds

Danny
11-10-2013, 11:58 AM
Steve, I've never used a preamp on VHF. I do, however, use a distribution amp on the main VHF antenna (CA-5254) to split the signal four ways.

As I was forced to use traps (ahead of the distribution amp) on my locals on 3, 6, and 12 and for the band between 4 and 5, I didn't want the extra boost in signals of a preamp. At the same time, I used my traps inside (not on the antenna) so the traps could be disconnected easily when I wanted to catch signals over locals during strong DX or when locals were off.

These days, FM interference hinders channel 6 video and can be heard on some high-band channels at times. I need to try one of those RS FM traps.

Whatever you choose to do, I think you will like that antenna.

pjdyer
11-11-2013, 02:47 AM
I should have followed the advice that I gave Fernando back then about UHF dishes and gotten one myself while they were still reasonably available here! With just 7' to the property line from where the V-100 mast is, at some azimuths it elements go over it so any longer boom item there with an even larger turning radius was a no go. TS Hermine winds caused an adjacent ligustrum to batter it in early Sept 2010
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/PIC_0042.JPG
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/PIC_0043.JPG
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/PIC_0044.JPG (broken off tree piece)
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/PIC_0045.JPG
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/PIC_0046.JPG

Trimming that intruder had been a pain for decades. The renters there finally took it all down shortly after it did this damage. The HD5030 was installed at another location in the yard the next month.

73, Pat - WA5IYX