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    Trip, there is a OTA channel on 14 here in Baton Rouge LA. it is SonLife Broadcasting Network. There is no Call Letters on this station. I would think that this would be SonLife Broadcasting Network's flagship station with Jimmy Swaggart Ministries here in Baton Rouge LA. The problem is that KLWB-DT-50 in Lafayette LA is moving to channel 14. KLWB-DT-50 comes in my location with an outdoor antenna with Preamp like a local here. Before SonLife started Broadcasting on channel 14, channel 14 was KPBN-LP-14 Pelican Broadcasting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPBN-LD KPBN is still broadcasting on the local cable here.

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    Trip, note this apparent programming change for KPBN-LD -- the SonLife station list on http://sonlifetv.com/uslistings.html does claim this station.

    KPBN-LD is licensed as a LPTV station. It's not guaranteed a channel after the repack. I haven't done the interference math but it does seem likely KLWB will bump KPBN from its channel.

    *Tentatively* next January, the FCC will hold a filing window for LPTV stations like KPBN, which were bumped from their channels by the repack, to apply for new channels. In many cases new channels will not be available and the LPTV stations will go away. (I suspect a new channel *will* be available for KPBN)
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    Trip, w9w, SonLife Broadcasting Network has been broadcasting on channel 14 for about five years now. The call letters do not show up on PSIP or in TS Reader Data.

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    What does show up in PSIP?

    Stations are not required to transmit their call letters in the station_name fields. Most do (at least in their .1 subs) but it's not a FCC requirement. They must announce their call letters (and city) aurally, visually, or both in the program material.

    FCC records still show KPBN-LD as the calls for the channel 14 station at Baton Rouge.
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    Could it be that KPBN is using one of those Morse Code ID's?

    I can say, that W16CC West Gate FL near Miami* has boo-koo subchannels and PSIP names....but I have yet to see an ID anywhere on screen, and only recently did a sub call themselves W16CC in a PSIP ( although they may have done it long ago). Currently it runs 9 channels, but lately AFAIK no picture on any of 'em!

    [*and BTW why are some COL's nonexistent or obscure? Nobody here could find West Gate if their lives depended on it. I did have an old Atlas from 1954 that lists "Westgate", one word, but obviously it was gobbled up by some other suburb, or just Miami itself.]

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    Here are some pictures of SonLife Broadcasting Network on channel DT-14. Notice that there is no PSIP call letters shown on the channel. https://www.dropbox.com/s/uhm07nx3py...13342.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbj1iw985e...14032.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhor2pa5rp...14128.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rt1n2ywlr...14918.jpg?dl=0 Here is the TSID file for channel DT-14 that I captured today. Sonlife DT-14.htm

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    KPBN-LD has never had PSIP, to the best of my knowledge. Technically, LPTV stations are not required to provide it unless not providing it results in a conflict with another station.

    I've updated the RabbitEars listing for KPBN-LD accordingly. But Doug is right, as an LPTV, it can be bumped by KLWB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd637299 View Post
    Could it be that KPBN is using one of those Morse Code ID's?
    No, that only works for analog stations. I suppose you *could* frequency-shift key the pilot of a DTV signal but I strongly suspect most receivers would respond by failing to decode the station until the ID was complete.

    [*and BTW why are some COL's nonexistent or obscure? Nobody here could find West Gate if their lives depended on it. I did have an old Atlas from 1954 that lists "Westgate", one word, but obviously it was gobbled up by some other suburb, or just Miami itself.]
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    The COL has legal consequences for a full-power station: you're required to cover (nearly) all of the COL with a strong signal; there are some non-technical requirements as well. (location of the main studio, etc.)

    None of these legal consequences exist for a LP/LD station. (or a FM translator) In some circumstances the very purpose of a LP station was to serve just part of a larger community. In others, the technical parameters available couldn't possibly serve the entire community. Either way, for LP/LD stations the COL is basically a placeholder, just to give some idea of where the station is located.
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    As Trip indicates, it's not just the PSIP call letters that are missing - there is no PSIP at all.

    Note on your first link, there is no TVCT in the upper left corner. (it should appear under the PAT) It's the TVCT that would contain the call letters. Indeed, I see a number of tables in there I would not expect from an ATSC station. I'm almost thinking they just patched the transport stream out of the satellite receiver directly into the transmitter. (which would require that the data rate on the satellite be precisely the ATSC standard 19.39Mbps)
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    Quote Originally Posted by w9wi View Post
    I'm almost thinking they just patched the transport stream out of the satellite receiver directly into the transmitter. (which would require that the data rate on the satellite be precisely the ATSC standard 19.39Mbps)
    You would be surprised how many LPTV stations look like that. They're less common than they used to be, but early on, there were quite a few. I don't know what they were using or how it was done, but it was definitely odd-looking.

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