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    Default JoeFM.net KJIB-LP 87.9 FM

    And the question is...Is it LEGAL or NOT???

    The perpetrator in question is none other than the broadcast station from Clear Lake TX, a stones throw from Houston, calling themselves JoeFM. They are currently operating on 87.9 fm, which the FCC engineer in charge of investigating the station's equipment some time back, would not pursue it because, ahem, it was above his *pay grade*. Joe FM is not authorized to be operating on 87.9 but....well, you can read their history and controversy here....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJIB-LP

    And if you care to check them out, here is their website, which includes a link to listen to them llve...
    http://879joefm.weebly.com/

    I have tried finding any documents for them through a FCC search or using the FCCInfo website and both come up empty.

    I have included their legal TOH id, which I snagged from their online stream at 8 AM on Friday, July 28, 2017.
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    Jim Thomas
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    Hey....Joe himself will tell you it's legal!

    cd

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    I still can't find anything authorized anywhere near Houston for operation on channel 6. KIPS has an application to move *towards* Houston, with a noise-limited (optimistic) coverage area that probably includes part of Houston - but that's still digital.

    An argument can be made that audio on 87.9 under an analog channel 6 LPTV license is legal. (many of the rules that applied to analog full-power stations are arguably not applicable to LPTV stations) But there has to be an underlying permit. I don't even see a digital permit for channel 6 in Houston. (again, there's the KIPS *application* that might arguably serve part of Houston - but again, that's an *application*, and it's digital.)

    There's nothing in the FCC rules that say you can't put up a website and stream that *claim* you're broadcasting on 87.9, as long as you don't actually put up that FM signal. The Texas Attorney General or Department of Consumer Protection might have a problem but the FCC won't.
    Doug Smith W9WI
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    Doug:

    In a similar vein, do you know the deal behind this, below? This seems like a similar situation. I am a bit skittish to call them....

    http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.p...hlight=Pantera

    Oh.... and do you all remember how ch 6 Schenectady tried to pull off 87.9 analog audio over seven years ago (while running DT 6)? FCC said nope. I was able to catch that one time in '09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w9wi View Post
    There's nothing in the FCC rules that say you can't put up a website and stream that *claim* you're broadcasting on 87.9, as long as you don't actually put up that FM signal. The Texas Attorney General or Department of Consumer Protection might have a problem but the FCC won't.
    However, JoeFM has been logged in Florida and Ontario now, via Es. And how are they classified? TV or FM? And if the FCC doesn't have any supporting documentation for them operating on 87.9 MHz, are they technically a pirate radio station, even though they are giving a TOH id? Can't figure out how a broadcast facility owner can *push* the FCC around.
    Jim Thomas
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