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    The RPC yields a major new document find. Many documents from Televisa that were needed, as well as other odds and ends from pretty much everybody.

    Technical

    XHAW-TDT from 105 to 120 kW: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010252.pdf
    XHLGG-TDT from 21.5 to 47.5 kW: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010251.pdf
    XHOAH-TDT, also from 21.5 to 47.5 kW: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010396.pdf
    XHGC-TDT from 200 to 300 kW: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010421.pdf (None of the other Televisa DF stations have this listed)
    XHAQ-TDT, fourfold: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010386.pdf
    XHEXT-TDT, fourfold: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010383.pdf
    XHA-TDT, to 50 kW: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010394.pdf
    XHUJED-TDT, change in transmitter site: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010433.pdf
    XHO-TDT to channel 20 (!!!!): http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/15041...REC-009674.pdf (note: IFT also lists XHTOB on 26)

    SPR third wave location changes

    It looks like the SPR had to do this as part of building the stations. Note the more specific location of transmitter sites.

    XHOPCO-TDT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010425.pdf (C. La Cumbre)
    XHOPSC-TDT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010361.pdf (C. Huitepec)
    XHOPTC-TDT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...ICA-010418.pdf (C. Mactumactza)

    Shadow Channels

    XEFB Saltillo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/12081...RIO-010397.pdf
    XEFB Cerro El Mirador: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/17071...RIO-010299.pdf (With digital the main XEFB site is now Cerro de la Silla, same as for the other Televisa stations. They all have shadows at Cerro El Mirador as well)
    XHX Saltillo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/16061...RIO-009997.pdf
    XHCSA Tuxtla: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/16071...RIO-010307.pdf (58.47 kW)
    XHAO Tuxtla: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/16071...RIO-010314.pdf (58.31 kW)
    XHCSA Pijijiapan: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010293.pdf
    XHAO Pijijiapan: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010296.pdf
    XEZ Guanajuato Gto.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010313.pdf
    XHZ Guanajuato Gto.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010315.pdf
    XHLGT Guanajuato Gto.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010304.pdf (note the mismatch between Celaya-Irapuato and León)
    XEZ Cerro Culiacán: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010297.pdf
    XHZ Cerro Culiacán: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010305.pdf (50 kW - also note that the listed city is not Celaya now but Irapuato!)
    XHQCZ Cerro Culiacán: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010282.pdf
    XEZ San Miguel de Allende: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010311.pdf
    XHZ San Miguel de Allende: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010291.pdf
    XHTEM Tlaxcala: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010301.pdf
    XHPUR Tlaxcala: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010429.pdf
    XHTEM Atlixco: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010300.pdf
    XHPUR Atlixco: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010365.pdf
    XHCBM Morelia: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010292.pdf
    XHXEM Valle de Bravo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010284.pdf
    XHXEM Tejupilco de Hidalgo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010298.pdf
    XHXEM Cd. Hidalgo, Mich.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010290.pdf (64 miles from Toluca)
    XHLUC Valle de Bravo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010434.pdf
    XHLUC Tejupilco de Hidalgo: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010371.pdf
    XHAQR Playa del Carmen: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010416.pdf (53 kW!)
    XHCCQ Playa del Carmen: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010435.pdf
    XHCER Tixtla, Gro.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010432.pdf
    XHCHL Tixtla, Gro.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010415.pdf
    XHCOL Colima, Col.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010302.pdf
    XHKF Colima, Col.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/16071...RIO-010306.pdf
    XHPMS Cedral, SLP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010303.pdf
    XHPMS Real de Catorce, SLP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010288.pdf
    XHCDI Cedral, SLP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010285.pdf
    XHCDI Real de Catorce, SLP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010286.pdf
    XHCCG Guanajuato, Gto.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010310.pdf
    XHMAS Guanajuato, Gto.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010283.pdf
    XHCCG La Piedad, Mich.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010316.pdf
    XHMAS La Piedad, Mich.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010308.pdf
    XHSFJ Ahualulco de Mercado, Jal.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010390.pdf
    XHJK Col. Santa Fé Tijuana: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010294.pdf (one was also given to XHTIT but is not new)
    XHLEJ Lagos de Moreno, Jal.: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010287.pdf

    I also missed six shadows for XHPTP on top of the 21 for XHGEM, but those are not newly authorized. Good grief, the Edomex state network should have 29 transmitters in it. Notably the XHPTP ones are 34 (intermittent), not 41... A sign of things to come?

    Full Stations

    XHSCE: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010363.pdf
    XHNCG: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010364.pdf
    XHST: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010399.pdf (28 instead of 44 at 100 kW ERP)
    XHIGN: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/10081...NAL-010424.pdf (RF 51, 43 kW — what a coincidence :/)
    XHCHC: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/10081...NAL-010430.pdf (RF 46)
    XHDEH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010431.pdf (RF 40)
    XHCDE: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/10081...NAL-010387.pdf (RF 44)
    XHCCH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010404.pdf (RF 49)
    XHHPT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010377.pdf
    XHTAH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010406.pdf
    XHAA: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010412.pdf
    XHATJ: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/12081...NAL-010419.pdf
    XHACN: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010392.pdf
    XHKG: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010369.pdf
    XHSBC: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010428.pdf (200 watts!?!?)
    XHLRT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010410.pdf
    XHUBT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010391.pdf
    XHPNH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010427.pdf
    XHGUY: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010403.pdf
    XHMST: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010402.pdf
    XHCNS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010395.pdf
    XHCBO: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010426.pdf
    XHTZA: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010381.pdf (this was the last missing station of SMRTV)
    XHLAC: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010372.pdf
    XHLBT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010436.pdf
    XHZRZ: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010378.pdf

    RTV Nuevo León (intermittent operation with same technical parameters, all erroneously listed as shadow channel authorizations)

    XHAGL: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010370.pdf
    XHCMP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010367.pdf
    XHGBT: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010360.pdf
    XHLRN: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010389.pdf
    XHPRS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NTE-010244.pdf
    XHRNS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010388.pdf
    XHVDB: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010420.pdf
    XHZOS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...RIO-010401.pdf

    Telemax

    XEWH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010385.pdf (RF 19)
    XHACH: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010393.pdf
    XHADO: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/04061...NAL-009924.pdf
    XHAZP: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010373.pdf
    XHBCA: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/10081...NAL-010405.pdf
    XHBVE: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010368.pdf
    XHCAS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010411.pdf
    XHIMS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010409.pdf
    XHMOS: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11081...NAL-010417.pdf
    XHPES: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010374.pdf (RF 48)
    XHUES: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/11031...NAL-010422.pdf
    XHSPA: http://rpc.ift.org.mx/rpc/pdfs/03081...NAL-010366.pdf
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    Here's an image from the new transmitter sites unearthed in this document dump:

    Azteca Playa del Carmen

    Lots of mountains (no great views for that), insufficient Street View (not a single street in Tixtla de Guerrero aside from the highway through town), etc. The mountain in Atlixco has some cool views of the area, though.
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    Raymie, during the last few days I spent some time re-reading some of the first 260 posts in this blog. I even found a few that
    I had missed. I also made some notes for future reference.

    Your contributions to WTFDA, DXing, and my peace of mind have been tremendous. Thank you very much for giving us so much
    of your time and work.

    Because of your work, I never hestitated to report and post photos of XHAO-4 Tuxtla in July. I did not have such a happy
    and confident feeling about reporting some of those shadow stations in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Raymie, during the last few days I spent some time re-reading some of the first 260 posts in this blog. I even found a few that
    I had missed. I also made some notes for future reference.

    Your contributions to WTFDA, DXing, and my peace of mind have been tremendous. Thank you very much for giving us so much
    of your time and work.

    Because of your work, I never hestitated to report and post photos of XHAO-4 Tuxtla in July. I did not have such a happy
    and confident feeling about reporting some of those shadow stations in the past.
    Why, thank you. It makes me blush to hear that.

    I have a sort of penchant for sniffing out data, historical information, etc. Some of my other big things that I do are similar in being research-heavy.

    Some more transmitter shots...

    XHSCE Saltillo: https://www.google.com/maps/@25.3625...7i13312!8i6656

    Note the two towers. The smaller guy wired tower is for the analog station. The larger self-supported tower was added for digital and did not exist in 2009.

    XHOPCA Coatzacoalcos: https://www.google.com/maps/@18.1347...8i6656!6m1!1e1

    What's odd here is the painted sign: Once TV México. Why is this not an OPMA or SPR sign? Most of the Coatzacoalcos towers are in this area; the Azteca site is a purple and white building.
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    It's been sort of quiet, so why not take a peek at a couple of El Economista articles?

    This one's about the long-treaded theme of AM problems:

    http://eleconomista.com.mx/industria...ruido-radio-am

    This one cites a report that says Mexico is 7th in the world in terms of most radio stations per 100,000 inhabitants — 1.4 per 100,000. It mentions that for the survival of many stations, such as AMs, consolidation will be necessary:

    http://eleconomista.com.mx/industria...encia-emisoras
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    Something is off in this article from the Saltillo paper Zócalo.

    On September 22, all television service there was turned off — channels 7, 9, 11, 25 and 44, according to the article. (That's not quite right — the Monterrey shadows were 2, 4, 9 and 11. 7 isn't even in digital.)

    Meanwhile, this other article talks a bit about the actual shadow channel shock received by the saltillenses when those Monterrey shadows left the air. And I must say it is a shock — while we were suspecting that it was going to happen, and Televisa was running Saltillo shadow-specific ads ("you can watch this station on virtual channel 9.1"), there was no intensive apagón campaign conducted in Coahuila's capital.

    If I didn't understand how shadow channels work or care about that sort of thing, I would have been stunned too. The big incentive for people to get digital even with half-service is that Canal de las Estrellas was among the shadows.

    There's also a better video of the Shadow Channel Shock too — this one shows a bit more of shadow XHAW leaving the air.
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    I wonder how many TV viewers are being lost in all of this.

    As you know, Nightlights were on the air for up to four weeks in the US after the analog shutdown in order to help anyone who may have been lost somehow in the shuffle.

    My Nightlight page:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    I wonder how many TV viewers are being lost in all of this.

    As you know, Nightlights were on the air for up to four weeks in the US after the analog shutdown in order to help anyone who may have been lost somehow in the shuffle.

    My Nightlight page:
    http://tvdxexpo.com/nightlights/nightlightsth.html
    I've thought about that too.

    In the case of rural Nuevo León TVNL has served as an inadvertent nightlight because it did not immediately have to convert, nor were any of its outstate (non-Monterrey) transmitters converted. But that's hardly what I'd want as my only TV option.

    I thought a better switching scheme would have shut off one or two networks (say, C5 and A13) and then the others would be shut off within a couple of weeks. This is similar to what Britain did in its digital switchover with BBC Two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymie View Post
    I've thought about that too.

    In the case of rural Nuevo León TVNL has served as an inadvertent nightlight because it did not immediately have to convert, nor were any of its outstate (non-Monterrey) transmitters converted. But that's hardly what I'd want as my only TV option.

    I thought a better switching scheme would have shut off one or two networks (say, C5 and A13) and then the others would be shut off within a couple of weeks. This is similar to what Britain did in its digital switchover with BBC Two.
    TVNL is better than nothing.

    The British scheme you mention would have been helpful.

    Raymie, have you ever watched one of those NAB Nightlight programs? They contained some useful information.

    Some stations, like WCVB-5 Boston, had good local segments in their loop.
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    What rhymes with APAGÓN?

    Of course...Torreón!

    The Comarca Lagunera, San Luis Río Colorado Son., and Cuernavaca, Morelos, are next up: October 29.

    The only exception is for four XELN shadows, at Mapimí, Peñón Blanco, Rodeo and Velardeña Dgo. Velardeña should be near Cuéncame (hint: XHVEL-TV) and I'm not sure why it's not included with that apagón. There is also a shadow XHO-2 at Velardeña, which accounts for one of the reports I read that CE (on channel 2) was available there.

    Cuernavaca marks the first apagón in central Mexico; the city is also home to the first flash-cut digital state station in Mexico, XHCMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    TVNL is better than nothing.

    The British scheme you mention would have been helpful.

    Raymie, have you ever watched one of those NAB Nightlight programs? They contained some useful information.

    Some stations, like WCVB-5 Boston, had good local segments in their loop.
    I have, and they were pretty good ideas.
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