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    Default Greetings From Wisconsin

    Hi, I'm a 13year old, and I first got in to dx ing when I heard a station I listened to on the internet from Chicago here in south central wisconsin one morning in my moms car while she was shopping, ever scince then when my parents go to the store I stay in the car scanning for Es or tropo the longest I've ever verified is KRNH 92.3 I think it was Es but It was 1036mi I was just listening to power 92.3 Chicago which caught my attention cause it was so clear no static then it faded out and KRNH faded in. Scince then I've never had another Es but recently I bought a Kaito KA1103 and this morning I got up at 5am and went outside and got KUUL Quad cities and WKSC And WBEZ Chicago to highlight some. The thing is that I don't know if that's that impressive with just a 80$ portable (it's got amazing fm sensitivity at least from my experience ,especially for 80$ ,and it's got world band with ssb) or just a somewhat common thing. So anyway hi and I would like to get someway to get rds for now if possible. I'm looking forward to becoming a active member.

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    KUUL is a pretty good haul from down there, and any Es is always exciting! I DXd from up in Madison for many years and heard a lot of interesting stuff. I think the most memorable was the Mexican station that came blasting in as I drove down Willy St., or that night of intense tropo down on Mifflin St. when stations from Hopkinsville, Kentucky and Nashville made the trip up north. Little did I imagine that 25 years later, I'd be moving into those stations' back yard!

    Madison is a lot harder to DX from these days - there are a pile of new local stations that weren't there when I left in 1990. But you don't have it nearly as bad down there in Rock County. You will, I'm afraid, learn to consider those Chicago stations to be pests -- but that's because you'll be hearing some far better DX. On a portable in Milwaukee I've heard signals well into Michigan and down into southern Illinois & St. Louis.

    Adding RDS to a radio that doesn't already have it is a bit of a gamble. (was that you who asked in another section about getting RDS Spy working on a portable?) What happens is.. that the RDS data is transmitted as an ultrasonic signal along with the audio. Some radios don't filter out that signal before sending the audio to the earphone jack. Unfortunately for the RDS decoders, most radios *do* filter the ultrasonic signal. (which is good for the 99.9% of owners who don't have RDS decoders, you don't want to spend battery power amplifying a signal you can't hear ) On some radios you can tap the signal before the filter by opening the radio and probing around. To be honest I wouldn't recommend it with a portable. The wiring is too compact & it's way too easy to slip the probe & destroy the radio.

    If you have a computer and about $20, one option is RTL-SDR. (search this site) It's a USB device you plug into your computer & use with free software to create a software-defined radio with RDS decoding. Works pretty well!
    Doug Smith W9WI
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    Thanks, and that would be crazy to get a Mexican station in wisconsin, and the Chicago ones do sometimes even get through semi locals (WXRT over WJQM),and the thing with rock county is its close to Madison ,Rockford and semi close to Milwaukee,though that's better than being in Madison cause the stations bleed over into adjacent frequencies.Today I got WCDD and WBKB,I'm starting to see a trend of stations from eastern Iowa/Western Illinois.And I guess I can live without rds but that sucks cause It can give a positive id without listening through the song and then hearing a syndicated show or automated programming.
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    yeah, Janesville is probably a pretty tough place for meteor scatter, where you need a channel that's almost perfectly clear. But you only have what, two particularly strong locals? (99.9 & 105.9, the latter didn't exist when I lived up there) So you should be in pretty good shape for Es and most decent tropo.
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    Yea,99.9 105.9 and 107.3. But where getting a LPFM station on 103.5 ( http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fm...0&facid=197277 ) which makes me mad cause it interferes with 103.7 WXSS and one less open frequency. Is there a certain time when tropo ducting is strongest or am I getting up,before sunrise for no reason?
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    JVL,

    I would bookmark these 2 sites, as far as tropo:

    http://aprs.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/ .........This shows what is going on, in real time, based on 144 MHz contacts; not far from FM & TV channels.

    http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html ....this is a prediction of what is to come for the next few days.

    In the case of both sites, "the redder, the better"!

    Here in Florida, March thru May is the peak Tropo season, although it can go into August or so. Also, in my case, heavy rain & thunderstorms kill any Tropo. And ALWAYS disconnect all antennas when thunderstorms are on the way.

    Tropo can be forecast, but sporadic-E cannot. So many theories abound about folks trying to predict Es, but basically one just has to wait. E-skip in real time shows here: www.dxmaps.com ...this is based on 50 MHz ham contacts.

    BTW, OT....I assume that you can view DT ch 5 WIWN (weather, virtual ch 68) 100% of the time there. It is only about a year old, and I hope to catch it someday as E-skip from here, but it sure won't be easy. I was told by w9wi that their antenna pattern wouldn't favor me. I have seen WGVK DT 5 Kalamazoo---that might be the closest I'll get.

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    In my experience in Madison, best tropo was in early to mid-fall. From about now through maybe the first snowfall.

    At least it looks like your 103.5 LPFM will be locally programmed. There are two 30 miles from here which simply rebroadcast religious programming off satellite dishes. The antenna is pretty low, if you're more than 4-5 miles away I suspect you'll still be hearing a lot of WXSS.

    In my experience in Madison, tropo was best right around sunrise. The top season started just about now, and ended when it started snowing. Long stretches of warm, calm weather were most likely to result in tropo, but you should probably check even at unlikely times. Keep an eye on the sites "cd" linked. This site is also worth a look. It shows long-haul TV reception in real time. There aren't any tuners in Wisconsin right now but if the tuners in Minneapolis and Indianapolis are seeing Wisconsin stations, there's probably something interesting going on on FM.

    Chris, he's roughly 70 miles southwest of the Milwaukee TV towers, with the typical not-really-suitable-for-VHF-low indoor TV antenna I suspect you have a better chance of seeing WIWN than he does
    Doug Smith W9WI
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    Interesting link there, w9wi. Wasn't even aware of some of Trip Ericson's links.

    Seeing as our OP is more into FM, if he has an FM antenna, maybe seeing DT ch 5 wouldn't be too difficult, using it. Sadly our only weather channel here now is WPEC's 12.3, with only a 360-degree radar wheel & NOAA radio audio. (I think WIWN is weather only.)

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    Yea I knew the tropo forecast one and thanks for the real time tropo website, but the dxmaps one is messed up or I just don't get it, it says sporadic e opening at 90mhz for example when I'm in the 50mhz tab and it shows nothing in the FM DX or 70mhz tab.

    The only time I'm able to do tv dx is when I'm at my camper (it's by New Lisbon, WI) and I did get wiwn there but I also got WTMJ - 4 there too so it might have been tropo.

    Btw today was probably the best tropo day so far since I got my KA1003, and I finally got a station from across Lake Michigan, WCSG and WYCN. So far I've heard stations in Wisconsin (Obviously) , Illinois , Iowa ,Indiana and Michigan, just since Friday when I got my radio.
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    As to DX Maps, the 70 MHz tab is useless---very few reports, if any. The 50 is the one to watch----however the E-skip season could well be over. Nothing notable for over a week, I think. Just a couple of lines here & there.

    I am a member of www.globaltuners.com ---if I can't have my own DX, I'll check on others'!

    cd

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