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    Lake Michigan Mid-Lake Bandscan - August 2014
    Chris Kadlec / beaglebass.com/dx


    With a length of 307 miles and width of up to 118 miles, Lake Michigan is one of the world's largest freshwater lakes. Coming from the Ojibwa word "mishigami," meaning great water, it is both the main focus of all my DXing and truly great indeed. Nothing quite compares to listening to the radio amidst sand dunes as high as 450 feet, freighters passing in the distance, and sand squeaking under your feet, not to mention breathtaking summer sunsets as late as 9:45 at night and daylight until 10:30. I've DXed on dark mosquito-infested hillsides many times and can admit that the place I call home, as well as my DX sites, are nothing short of magical. I've spent 15 years DXing from the shore. I figured it was time to do it on the water, so that's exactly what I did.

    On the way home from the yearly Madison-Milwaukee DX GTG, I took a detour and utilized the four-hour ferry ride on the SS Badger, a 410-foot long, 7-story tall coal and steam-powered boat between Manitowoc and Ludington, an hour north of home. My objective? Well, I've always wanted to ride it and I've always wanted to DX on the lake too.

    So here's the bandscan on Lake Michigan. It's a great snapshot of what all DXers along the shores (the eastern coast in particular) know to be the most common stations, with a few absences, including the most common markets: Chicago, Milwaukee, Green Bay, Escanaba, Cadillac, Grand Rapids, South Bend, Rockford, Madison, Wausau, and Dubuque. None of the reception is especially noteworthy. The typical Lansing and Bay City stations are absent in the scan as they typically traverse the south end of the lake, just as Wausau and Marquette would be expected absent on the south end.

    A total of 193 stations were received, 103 of them also heard in Ludington, noted on the Ludington bandscan taken immediately after disembarking from the ferry. Note the presence of the many northwest catches in the Ludington bandscan that are interestingly not heard on the lake. Though distant catches are highlighted in orange and red, nearly all of them are regular stations along the shore and do not indicate catches out of the ordinary. The bandscan was conducted in one single scan, listening to each frequency just one single time. If five stations are listed, they were heard at the same time. Stations are listed from most dominant (first) to least dominant (last).


    LAKE MICHIGAN MID-LAKE, MICHIGAN / WISCONSIN BANDSCAN
    August 17, 2014 1615 - 1845 PM EDT
    Conditions: 51°F water / 54°F air (9 ft.) / 10 mph (Buoy 45024)
    Location: 43°59'57.00"N 87°02'50.00"W (central location)
    Tuner: Samsung Yepp Q2 MP3 player with earphones wire antenna
    193 stations total / 103 of these also heard in Ludington

    * Station was received on seek
    dom. Station was dominant on the frequency

    87.7 WGWG-LP IL Chicago / The Game / 3kw / good (148 mi.)
    88.1 WHID WI Green Bay / WPR Ideas / 17kw / RDS / perfect (53 mi.)
    ---- WYCE MI Wyoming / AAA / 10kw / perfect (102 mi.)
    ---- WMWK WI Milwaukee / Family Radio / 1.1kw / perfect (76 mi.)
    88.3 WSMZ MI Crystal Valley / Smile FM / 1.5kw / RDS / perfect (46 mi.)
    88.5 WNLI WI Sturgeon Bay / Air1 / 50kw / perfect dom. (65 mi.)
    ---- WGNV WI Milladore / The Family / 50kw / perfect (145 mi.)
    * 88.7 WIAA MI Interlochen / Classical IPR / 100kw / RDS / perfect (69 mi.)
    ---- WSIS MI Riverside / Smile FM / 6kw / good in hard null (126 mi.)
    88.9 WYMS WI Milwaukee / R. Milwaukee / 1.45kw / perfect (76 mi.)
    ---- WBLU MI Grand Rapids / Blue Lk. Public R. //90.3 / 650w / good (100 mi.)
    ---- WVRN WI Wittenberg / VCY America / 25kw / good (117 mi.)
    89.1 IBOC (WPNE)
    * 89.3 WPNE WI Green Bay / WPR News & Class. / 97kw / perfect (55 mi.)
    ---- WGNB MI Zeeland / Religious / 30kw / perfect (96 mi.)
    89.5 WBEW IN Chesterton / Vocalo / 4kw / perfect (163 mi.)
    ---- WNIJ IL DeKalb / Northern Public R. / 50kw / good (169 mi.)
    ---- WCMU MI Mt. Pleasant / CMU Public R. / 100kw / good (117 mi.)
    89.7 WUWM WI Milwaukee / Milwaukee Public R. / 13.5kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    ---- WLMN MI Manistee / IPR News R. / 15kw / perfect (40 mi.)
    89.9 WLJN MI Traverse City / Christian / 100kw / very good (87 mi.)
    ---- WVFL WI Fond du Lac / VCY America //107.7 / 1kw (66 mi.)
    90.1 WMBI IL Chicago / Moody R. / 100kw / perfect (151 mi.)
    ---- WORQ WI Green Bay / Q90 FM / 11kw / very good (53 mi.)
    90.3 WBLV MI Twin Lake / Blue Lk. Public R. //88.9 / 100kw / perfect (59 mi.)
    * 90.5 WPFF WI Sturgeon Bay / K-Love / 100kw / RDS / perfect (65 mi.)
    * 90.7 WHAD WI Delafield / WPR Ideas / 72kw / RDS / perfect (95 mi.)
    ---- WAUS MI Berrien Springs / Classical / 50kw / perfect (145 mi.)
    90.9 WHRM WI Wausau / WPR News & Class. / 81kw / very good (145 mi.)
    91.1 WOLW MI Cadillac / The Promise FM / 50kw / perfect (69 mi.)
    ---- WOVM WI Appleton / The Avenue / 42kw / very good (60 mi.)
    91.3 WRMW WI Pestigo / R. Maria / 5.4kw / perfect (65 mi.)
    ---- WCSG MI Grand Rapids / Christian Contemp. / 37kw / perfect (109 mi.)
    91.5 WBEZ IL Chicago / Chicago Public Media / 5.7kw / perfect (148 mi.)
    ---- WEMY WI Green Bay / The Family //91.9 / 710w / perfect (53 mi.)
    91.7 WSHS WI Sheboygan / WPR Ideas / 175w / perfect (37 mi.)
    ---- WQQA WI Forestville / Radio 74 Internationale / 12kw / perfect (45 mi.)
    91.9 WEMI WI Appleton / The Family //91.5 / 3.1kw / perfect (71 mi.)
    ---- WGCP MI Cadillac / 3ABN / 2.1kw / very good (80 mi.)
    * 92.1 WLTU WI Manitowoc / Oldies 92.1 FM / 3.7kw / perfect (30 mi.)
    92.3 WPWX IN Hammond / Power 92 / 50kw / perfect dom. (165 mi.)
    ---- WJMQ WI Clintonville / Frog Country / 6kw / perfect (93 mi.)
    ---- WJPD MI Ishpeming / Big Country / 100kw / good (175 mi.)
    92.5 WBWI WI West Bend / Country / 17.5kw / perfect (74 mi.)
    ---- WLAW MI Newaygo / Nash Icons / 2.25kw / very good (74 mi.)
    * 92.7 WAUN WI Kewaunee / La Más Grande / 6kw / perfect (44 mi.)
    92.9 WJZQ MI Cadillac / Z93 / 100kw / very good (100 mi.)
    ---- WKZY WI Chilton / KZ Radio //104.3 / 5.8kw / good (60 mi.)
    ---- KATF IA Dubuque / Kat FM / 89.7kw / good (207 mi.)
    93.1 WIMK MI Iron Mountain / 93 Rock / 100kw / perfect dom. (135 mi.)
    ---- WMPA MI Ferrysburg / Country 93.1 / 6kw / very good (77 mi.)
    93.3 WLDB WI Milwaukee / B93.3 / 16kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    93.5 WRQE WI New London / 93 Rock / 50kw / very good (83 mi.)
    93.7 WBCT MI Grand Rapids / B-93 / 320kw / RDS / perfect dom. (121 mi.)
    ---- WBFM WI Sheboygan / B93.7 / 6kw / perfect (39 mi.)
    93.9 WDOR WI Sturgeon Bay / Full Service / 77kw / perfect (65 mi.)
    ---- W230BU WI Rothschild / Fox Sports R. / 250w / perfect hard null (143 mi.)
    * 94.1 WWKR MI Hart / K-Rock / 5kw / perfect (46 mi.)
    * ---- WJJO WI Watertown / 94-1 JJO / 50kw / RDS / perfect (120 mi.)
    94.3 WZNL MI Norway / Star 94.3 / 2.4kw / very good (135 mi.)
    ---- WYDR WI Neenah-Menasha / The Drive //99.7 / 13kw / good (62 mi.)
    ---- WJKL IL Glendale Hts. / K-Love / 3.5kw / good (155 mi.)
    ---- WZOC IN Plymouth / Z94.3 / 11.5kw / good (175 mi.)
    ---- WQPC WI Prairie du Chien / Q94 Great Country / 36kw / good (214 mi.)
    * 94.5 WLWK WI Milwaukee / The Lake / 14kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    ---- WTNR MI Holland / Nash FM / 50kw / perfect (96 mi.)
    94.7 WZOR WI Mishicot / Razor 94.7 / 21.5kw / RDS / perfect (44 mi.)
    ---- WLS IL Chicago / Classic Hits / 4.4kw / good in null (149 mi.)
    94.9 WKZC MI Scottville / The Big Dog / 17kw / very good (32 mi.)
    ---- WSJM MI Benton Harbor / News Talk Sports / 2.2kw / very good (137 mi.)
    * 95.1 WLST WI Marinette / Cat Country / 100kw / RDS / perfect (79 mi.)
    ---- WIIL WI Union Grove / 95 WIIL Rock / 50kw / very good (109 mi.)
    95.3 WGMO WI Spooner / 95 GMO / 7.1kw / perfect dominant (269 mi.)
    ---- WGVS MI Whitehall / NPR Public / 2kw / very good (57 mi.)
    ---- WXRO WI Beaver Dam / Today's Best Country / 6kw / good (96 mi.)
    ---- WTRC MI Niles / News Talk 95.3 MNC / 5.5kw / very good (161 mi.)
    ---- WRKX IL Ottawa / SAM FM / 4.3kw / good (203 mi.)
    * 95.5 WNUA IL Chicago / El Patrón / 8.3kw / perfect (148 mi.)
    * 95.7 WRIT WI Milwaukee / Oldies 95.7 / 34kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    95.9 WLJW MI Fife Lake / Fuel FM / 19kw / very good (100 mi.)
    ---- WKSZ WI De Pere / Kiss FM / 4.5kw / good (53 mi.)
    96.1 WMAX MI Holland / 96.1 ESPN / 50kw / perfect (101 mi.)
    ---- W241AG WI Sheboygan / The Point //104.5 / 250w / very good (39 mi.)
    ---- WTCX WI Ripon / 96-1 TCX / 4kw / very good (84 mi.)
    * 96.3 WSFQ WI Peshtigo / Hits 96 / 49kw / RDS / perfect (87 mi.)
    * 96.5 WKLH WI Milwaukee / Classic Rock / 22kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    * 96.7 WBDK WI Algoma / Relaxing R. / 8kw / perfect +IBOC (52 mi.)
    * 96.9 WWDV IL Zion / The Drive //97.1 / 50kw / RDS / perfect dom. (111 mi.)
    ---- WLAV MI Grand Rapids / 97 LAV / 50kw / good (101 mi.)
    * 97.1 WGLQ MI Escanaba / Magic 97 / 100kw / perfect (148 mi.)
    ---- WDRV IL Chicago / The Drive //96.9 / 8.3kw / good (149 mi.)
    * 97.3 WRNW WI Milwaukee / Radio Now / 15.5kw / RDS / perfect dom. (76 mi.)
    ---- WDEE MI Reed City / Sunny 97.3 / 2.85kw / perfect (73 mi.)
    ---- KGRR IA Epworth / The Rock / 25kw / good (216 mi.)
    97.5 WWSN MI Whitehall / Sunny FM / 1.7kw / perfect (56 mi.)
    ---- WZOK IL Rockford / 97 ZOK / 50kw / very good (155 mi.)
    * 97.7 WMLQ MI Manistee / Coast FM / 2.5kw / perfect (40 mi.)
    ---- WFDL WI Lomira / Sunny 97-7 / 17.5kw / very good (73 mi.)
    * 97.9 WGRD MI Grand Rapids / GR's Rock Alt. / 13kw / RDS / perfect dom. (109 mi.)
    ---- WLUP IL Chicago / The Loop / 4kw / good in null (148 mi.)
    98.1 WLKN WI Cleveland / Lake 98.1 / 5.8kw / perfect (36 mi.)
    98.3 WLCS MI North Muskegon / Classic Hits / 1.6kw / perfect (65 mi.)
    ---- WCXT MI Hartford / The Coast / 3.7kw / good (126 mi.)
    * 98.5 WQLH WI Green Bay / Star 98 / 100kw / perfect (70 mi.)
    ---- WXXQ IL Freeport / Q98.5 / 11kw / very good (165 mi.)
    ---- WUPS MI Harrison / Classic Hits / 100kw / very good (116 mi.)
    * 98.7 WLDN MI Ludington / News 98 / 5.5kw / perfect (31 mi.)
    98.9 WVCX WI Tomah / VCY America / 100kw / very good (170 mi.)
    ---- WKLZ MI Petoskey / KLT The Rock Station / 100kw / good + IBOC (145 mi.)
    * 99.1 WMYX WI Milwaukee / The Mix / 50kw / RDS / perfect (89 mi.)
    ---- WSMK MI Buchanan / Michiana's Hottest Music / 3kw / good in null (151 mi.)
    99.3 WJQK MI Zeeland / JQ99.3 / 4.7kw / very good (98 mi.)
    ---- WDMP WI Dodgeville / Outlaw D-99.3 / 1.55kw / good + IBOC (172 mi.)
    99.5 WUSN IL Chicago / US 99.5 / 5.7kw / perfect (148 mi.)
    ---- WPKR WI Omro / Nash FM //104.9 / 25kw / perfect (82 mi.)
    * 99.7 WZDR WI Sturgeon Bay / The Drive //94.3 / 46kw / RDS / perfect (52 mi.)
    ---- WUGN MI Midland / Family Life R. / 100kw / perfect (129 mi.)
    99.9 WHFB MI Benton Harbor / New Country 99.9 / 50kw / RDS / perfect (145 mi.)
    ---- WJVL WI Janesville / Pure Country / 11kw / very good (138 mi.)
    *100.1 WSJP WI Port Washington / Relevant R. / 6kw / perfect (62 mi.)
    100.3 WNCY WI Neenah-Menasha / Y100 / 45kw / RDS / perfect (60 mi.)
    ----- WILV IL Chicago / Chicago's 100.3 / 5.7kw / good (148 mi.)
    100.5 W263BQ WI Sheboygan / The V. of the Master //102.7 / 80w / perfect (39 mi.)
    ----- WEEH-LP MI Hart / The Oldies Station / 60w / very good (38 mi.)
    *100.7 WOBE MI Crystal Falls / Radio Now FM / 100kw / perfect (135 mi.)
    ----- WKKV WI Racine / V100.7 / 50kw / perfect (97 mi.)
    100.9 WQXC MI Allegan / Cool 101 / 3kw / good (122 mi.)
    101.1 WKQX IL Chicago / 101 WKQX / 5.7kw / perfect (148 mi.)
    ----- WIXX WI Green Bay / 101 WIXX / 96kw / perfect (55 mi.)
    101.3 WBFX MI Grand Rapids / The Brew / 50kw / RDS / perfect (107 mi.)
    101.5 WJNR MI Iron Mountain / Frog Country / 100kw / perfect (135 mi.)
    ----- WNSN IN South Bend / Sunny 101.5 / 13kw / perfect (170 mi.)
    ----- WIBA WI Sauk City / Classic Rock / 12kw / very good (141 mi.)
    101.7 WMRR MI Muskegon Hts. / Rock 101-7 / 12kw / RDS / perfect (61 mi.)
    ----- WRCV IL Dixon / River Country / 6kw / good in null (195 mi.)
    101.9 WTMX IL Skokie / The Mix / 4.2kw / perfect (149 mi.)
    ----- WDEZ WI Wausau / Country / 98.5kw / very good (145 mi.)
    102.1 WLUM WI Milwaukee / FM 102/1 / 8.8kw / perfect (76 mi.)
    ----- WMUK MI Kalamazoo / NPR Public / 49kw / perfect (133 mi.)
    102.3 WQTC WI Manitowoc / Q102 / 4.5kw / perfect (30 mi.)
    ----- WXLC IL Waukegan / 102-3 XLC / 3kw / perfect (121 mi.)
    ----- WYBR MI Big Rapids / Y-102 / 10.5kw / perfect (76 mi.)
    102.5 WCMM MI Gulliver / The Moose / 100kw / perfect dom. (139 mi.)
    ----- WNWC WI Madison / Life 102.5 / 50kw / RDS / perfect (140 mi.)
    102.7 WRVM WI Suring / The Voice of the Master / 98kw / perfect (96 mi.)
    ----- WMOM MI Pentwater / MOM-FM / 6kw / perfect (35 mi.)
    *102.9 WHQG WI Milwaukee / The Hog / 50kw / RDS / perfect (81 mi.)
    103.1 WOGB WI Reedsville / Classic Hits / 3.6kw / very good (53 mi.)
    103.3 WFXD MI Marquette / 103 FXD / 100kw / perfect (182 mi.)
    ----- WKFR MI Battle Creek / CHR / 50kw / very good (142 mi.)
    103.5 WTCM MI Traverse City / Country / 100kw / RDS / perfect (74 mi.)
    103.7 WXSS WI Wauwatosa / Kiss-FM / 19.5kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    103.9 WVBO WI Winneconne / Oldies / 24.95kw / perfect (72 mi.)
    104.1 WVGR MI Grand Rapids / Michigan R. / 96kw / RDS / perfect (120 mi.)
    ----- WRLU WI Algoma / Classic Country / 2.4kw / very good (52 mi.)
    ----- WZEE WI Madison / Z104 / 12kw / very good (139 mi.)
    104.3 WJMK IL Chicago / K-Hits / 4.1kw / perfect dom. (149 mi.)
    ----- WKZG WI Seymour/ KZ Radio //92.9 / 5.6kw / perfect (73 mi.)
    104.5 WXER WI Plymouth / The Point //96.1 / 5.1kw / perfect (54 mi.)
    ----- WSNX MI Muskegon / 104-5 SNX / 32kw / perfect (75 mi.)
    104.7 WDDW WI Sturtevant / La Gran D / 4.2kw / perfect (89 mi.)
    ----- WFRN IN Elkhart / Contemp. Christian / 50kw / perfect (173 mi.)
    ----- WBJZ WI Berlin / B104.7 / 5.2kw / perfect (92 mi.)
    *104.9 W285DY MI Ludington / Coast FM //97.7 / 19w / perfect (35 mi.)
    ----- WPCK WI Denmark / Nash FM //99.5 / 10kw / perfect (49 mi.)
    105.1 WOJO IL Evanston / La Que Buena / 5.7kw / good (148 mi.)
    ----- WSBW WI Ephraim / More FM / 3.1kw / good (85 mi.)
    105.3 WLVE WI Mukwonago / K-Love / 1.65kw / perfect (91 mi.)
    ----- WHTS MI Coopersville / Hot FM / 20kw / perfect (74 mi.)
    105.5 WGKL MI Gladstone / Kool 105.5 / 10kw / very good (125 mi.)
    ----- WLJE IN Valparaiso / Indiana 105 / 1.25kw / good (171 mi.)
    105.7 WAPL WI Appleton / Rock / 100kw / perfect (53 mi.)
    ----- WSRW MI Grand Rapids / Star 105.7 / 265kw / perfect (120 mi.)
    105.9 WCFS IL Elmwood Park / Newsradio 780 / 4.1kw / perfect +IBOC (149 mi.)
    *106.1 WMIL WI Waukesha / FM 106.1 / 12kw / RDS / perfect (76 mi.)
    *106.3 WKLA MI Ludington / Hot AC / 4.9kw / perfect (32 mi.)
    106.5 WHBZ WI Sheboygan Falls / The Buzz / 6kw / very good (39 mi.)
    ----- WYTE WI Marshfield / Y106.5 / 100kw / very good (146 mi.)
    106.7 WKRU WI Allouez / Kruz / 25kw / perfect (55 mi.)
    ----- WSRT MI Gaylord / ESPN Radio / 100kw / very good (130 mi.)
    *106.9 WOOD MI Muskegon / NewsRadio 106.9 & 1300 / 50kw / RDS / perfect (72 mi.)
    ----- WNRG WI Brookfield / Energy 106.9 / 4.4kw / perfect in null (81 mi.)
    107.1 WIRX MI St. Joseph / Rock 107 / 1.2kw / very good (137 mi.)
    ----- WOCO WI Oconto / Nostalgia / 3kw / good (76 mi.)
    ----- WFON WI Fond du Lac / K107.1 / 6kw / in (67 mi.)
    107.3 WUPF MI Powers / Classic Hits / 50kw / perfect (119 mi.)
    ----- WBBL MI Greenville / Sports / 50kw / very good (109 mi.)
    ----- WRSW IN Warsaw / Lake City Rock / 50kw / good (201 mi.)
    107.5 WGCI IL Chicago / Urban / 3.7kw / perfect (149 mi.)
    ----- WDUZ WI Brillion / The Fan / 3.6kw / perfect (53 mi.)
    107.7 WVCY WI Milwaukee / VCY America //89.9 / 43kw / perfect (88 mi.)
    107.9 WMUS MI Muskegon / 107 MUS / 15kw / perfect (61 mi.)
    ----- WCZW MI Charlevoix / Classic Hits WCCW / 5kw / perfect (128 mi.)
    ----- WLEY IL Aurora / La Ley / 21kw / good (152 mi.)

    Most Distant Catches

    95.3 WGMO WI Spooner / 95 GMO / 7.1kw / perfect dominant (269 mi.)
    97.3 KGRR IA Epworth / The Rock / 25kw / good (216 mi.)
    94.3 WQPC WI Prairie du Chien / Q94 Great Country / 36kw / good (214 mi.)
    92.9 KATF IA Dubuque / Kat FM / 89.7kw / good (207 mi.)
    95.3 WRKX IL Ottawa / SAM FM / 4.3kw / good (203 mi.)
    107.3 WSRW IN Warsaw / Lake City Rock / 50kw / good (201 mi.)
    101.7 WRCV IL Dixon / River Country / 6kw / good in null (195 mi.)
    103.3 WFXD MI Marquette / 103 FXD / 100kw / perfect (182 mi.)
    92.3 WJPD MI Ishpeming / Big Country / 100kw / good (175 mi.)
    94.3 WZOC IN Plymouth / Z94.3 / 11.5kw / good (175 mi.)

    * Due to time constraints and the unstable nature of some frequencies, not all stations were monitored for seek, though the strongest ones were checked upon reception. The bandscan was taken while in transit between Manitowoc, Wisc. and Ludington, Mich, starting 17 miles off Manitowoc with 91.5, crossing the state line (30 miles) with 96.5, reaching 102.3 about 14 miles off Ludington, and finishing the scan just off Ludington, though aside from being closer to locals, the close proximity to shore appeared to make little difference in reception despite the lack of time in completing the scan.


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    Last edited by cckadlec; 08-28-2014 at 09:47 AM.
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    Cool way to DX, on a moving boat. I find it somewhat frustrating that others consistently get stations well past my goal record of 200+ mi. My tropo/non Es RECORD is only 185mi
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    Don't be deterred. 185 miles is fairly decent considering your setup and location. Over time, you'll get longer catches when tropo events come along, especially in the fall months. I wouldn't be too frustrated comparing your own catches to mine as I am DXing on a 90-mile open water path looking at downtown Milwaukee, while you're DXing in a hilly area of Wisconsin.

    As for the moving boat, it was interesting. I was wishing the boat would slow down a little though. Even at 18 mph, it was too fast and there were too many stations to deal with. Who knows what would have come in had I had enough time for a quick second swing around the band.
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    I'm looking to get over 200mi today but idk I'm just going off the tropo prediction map. Janesville isn't hilly except for down by the river but I'm not by the river I'm up on the east/northeast side. It is hilly to the west though and also it is hilly in parts of walworth county. I just don't know if me always skipping over 88.1 - 91.9 is bad and I usually skip 95.3 - 99.1 but not always. Is this possibly holding me back?
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    Skipping anything will hold you back. You never know what you'll get and where. I used to always skip 88.1 to 91.9 until 2008 or so. I figured there were too many stations that were hard to ID, but once I started listening, I realized there aren't any more stations on there that I could actually regularly hear than any other frequency, short of during Es of course, which starts at 88.1 and works its way up the dial. If you're skipping the non-comm band during Es, you're basically wishing failure upon yourself. You should start by making a bandscan every day until you come up with a relatively average bandscan. From there, you can flip through the dial and have a handy guide of what you normally would hear. When something sounds unusual, you can better investigate it. Bill's maps are just a general prediction. There are plenty of times where the forecast is promising and nothing happens, just as you could be looking at the real-time tropo map that says conditions are dead when in fact they're wildly active in your specific location.
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    Bandscan from grocery store parking lot

    88.1 Religous music
    88.3 WFEN Rckfd
    88.5 WFEN static
    88.7 WERN RDS "CLASSICS MORNINGS 88.7WERN"
    88.9 static
    89.1 unknown npr WNIJ affiliate?
    89.3 classical but staticky
    89.5 RDS "WNIJ HD-1 ROCKFORD"
    89.7 static
    Skipping to 92.1 cause of time
    92.1 WXXM
    92.3 WXXM bleed
    92.5 WCPT
    92.7 static
    92.9 KATF
    93.1 WJQM
    93.3 B93.3 behind static
    93.5 Spanish
    93.7 WEKZ RDS "Big 93.7 The Voice of The Region"
    93.9 WEKZ bleed
    94.1 WJJO RDS "94.1 JJO MADISON SOLID ROCK"
    Then my mom got back.
    Note: 103.5 WKSC came in particularly strong
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    I know that E skip goes through tv channels 1-6 then 88.1 and up but I've never heard it do that, I don't know how it progresses, the e skip I heard was on 92.3 but if I think there's e skip I go to 88.5 or 88.1

    I guess I can do band scans and after some what comparing the car radio to mine hooked up to my antenna I fell the car has advantages like stations don't bleed as much and also RDS but you can't Move the antenna so... It's a trade off.

    Do you think the maps are usually accurate or not?
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    Well, skip generally goes from top to bottom, but sometimes it can be totally random. You can be driving (or in your case, riding) along and hear a strong station on 107.9 out of the blue while nothing else is in. During bigger events though, it'll start low and increase. The highest frequency you can receive is called the "MUF" (maximum usable frequency), so you may be scanning the dial and hearing Es stations up to 95.7 and everything above that is just tropo or locals, then your MUF is around 95.7.

    The tropo maps are often overall accurate, but if you live in a valley or atop a hill or in an area with non-average terrain, it might not be accurate. The stuff that people 5 miles to my east hear is not normal at my location, so the maps are less accurate for me when they show tropo in my area. Use the APRS map for real-time tropo, keeping in mind that it extends its paths beyond what is actually being received (click on the path to see the *actual* paths being received). That's accurate for the people reporting, but again, may not be accurate for your specific location.

    You can find those links on my page here, if you don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/dx_links.htm

    - The start of your bandscan looks like what I was hearing. Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Dubuque.
    [ Radio and weather geeks, beware. Lake inversion DX, coastal tropo, Korean and coastal Chinese FM, RDS database, and bandscans at http://www.beaglebass.com/dx • Tuner: Samsung Yepp Q2 MP3 player & Grundig G8 • Location: Seoul, Korea (530 mi. ne of Shanghai) • Home DX sites: City Beach, Grand Haven, Mich.; Kruse & Père Marquette Beach, Muskegon, Mich.; Silver Lake Sand Dunes, Mears, Mich.; Stearns Park Beach, Ludington, Mich.; Songtan, Korea • Contact me at Chris.Kadlec@gmx.de ]

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    Personal note: the map for this bandscan is posted in this thread for those interested. Sometimes a map puts things in better perspective for those unfamiliar with the geography and stations.
    [ Radio and weather geeks, beware. Lake inversion DX, coastal tropo, Korean and coastal Chinese FM, RDS database, and bandscans at http://www.beaglebass.com/dx • Tuner: Samsung Yepp Q2 MP3 player & Grundig G8 • Location: Seoul, Korea (530 mi. ne of Shanghai) • Home DX sites: City Beach, Grand Haven, Mich.; Kruse & Père Marquette Beach, Muskegon, Mich.; Silver Lake Sand Dunes, Mears, Mich.; Stearns Park Beach, Ludington, Mich.; Songtan, Korea • Contact me at Chris.Kadlec@gmx.de ]

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