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    I'm trying to put together information on the original legal translators which used to operate above channel 69. Call letters were issued in alphabetical order -- and there are some gaps.

    Does anyone have any information on any of the following stations? Thanks!
    K70AG
    K70CQ
    K70DE
    K70DM
    K70DN
    K70DS
    K70DX
    K70DZ
    K70EA
    K70ED
    K70EF
    K70EI
    K70EQ
    K70ES
    K70FI
    K70FJ
    K70FM
    K71BS
    K71BV
    K71BZ
    K72BQ
    K72BS
    K72BU
    K72BX
    K72BY
    K72CC
    K72CE
    K72CO
    K72CV
    K72DR
    K72DV
    K73BC
    K73BH
    K73BL
    K73BM
    K73BO
    K74BV
    K74BY
    K74CA
    K74CB
    K74CG
    K74CI
    K74CR
    K74CV
    K74DA
    K74DF
    K74DL
    K74DV
    K74DY
    K75AX
    K75BF
    K75BG
    K75BH
    K75BO
    K75BQ
    K75BU
    K75CC
    K75CI
    K75CN
    K75CO
    K75CR
    K75CX
    K75CY
    K75CZ
    K75DA
    K76AZ
    K76BK
    K76BP
    K76BS
    K76BW
    K76CC
    K76CJ
    K76DA
    K77BF
    K77BP
    K77BQ
    K77BR
    K77BV
    K77CL
    K77CO
    K78BD
    K78BE
    K78BT
    K78BV
    K78BW
    K78CE
    K78CL
    K78CP
    K78CS
    K78CZ
    K79AO
    K79BG
    K79BH
    K79BI
    K80BM
    K80BP
    K80CF
    K80CG
    K81AP
    K81AS
    K81AU
    K81AX
    K81AY
    K81BA
    K81BL
    K81BO
    K82AV
    K82BR
    K82BS
    K83AX
    K83BI
    K83BN
    K83BQ
    W70AI
    W70AJ
    W70AL
    W71AD
    W72AD
    W72AF
    W73AM
    W73AQ
    W76AO
    W78AH
    W79AG
    W79AO
    W79AS
    W82AC
    W82AF
    W83AF
    W83AP
    -K70GB?
    Doug Smith W9WI
    Pleasant View, TN EM66
    http://www.w9wi.com

  • #2
    Guhhh, this is surprisingly hard! Not even newspapers.com is useful.

    I did find some stuff that would be good for your original list.

    K70FE Hays KS was indeed KAKE. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55621596/

    K70AR did indeed become K24FI

    K71BH is actually K20GH-D by way of K63BY. 71-63-20-digital

    K71AI Evanston WY is now...K23DS-D, in the Wyoming PBS network. It's actually older than the station it repeats. It was apparently owned by a local translator group.

    K72DJ was deleted in 1980.

    K72BE is a strange one. The calls are listed under two FCC license entries, but it is now K35KH-D. It is owned by the Leech Lake Television Cooperative and is a multiplex of WUCW, KARE Court TV, and KSTC and one of its subs.

    K72AX became K46BU-D (now on channel 26). The other candidate, K44CJ (now K15LZ-D), was a new CP in 1988.

    K72CX moved across the state line to Mountain View, etc., UT, and became K25EE, operating until deletion in 2014.

    K73AG - 1958 Telecasting Yearbook says this translator was set up to relay KID-TV.

    K73BF is indeed now K24FE-D.

    K74BJ is in FCC DB as having been owned by Meredith. Meredith once owned KSEE-TV in Fresno which would have been a logical relay.

    The Salina ch 74 is K74CN and is well-attested in the Salina Journal of that era, sumptuously so for a UHF translator. Moved to 18 in 1967, then to 6 in 1989 as K06LZ. It's now KSNL-LD.

    K74AR Deer River MN is listed by the FCC as having been owned by "JR Communications". That must actually be RJR Communications, former owner of then-WDSM-TV, now KBJR-TV Duluth.

    K74BQ I think is the same thing, though for reasons I do not understand FCC lists it with that owner AND a location of Pateros, etc., Washington. Was there another K74BQ?

    K74BL was deleted...after becoming K47DP in 1990. It was owned by RGW Investments of Richmond, VA.

    K74DX did move down, but not to 48: K45CU was its final call. Looks like it was KASA, so at some point it switched primaries as it is older by a good margin.

    K74AQ became K28GZ Orangeville, owned by Emery County and listed as KUTV still.

    K75AI is indeed K27DA(-D). It's also changed primaries to KNXV.

    K75CH and K75CB were both KAKE.

    K75BC was in Beatrice, Nebraska. It repeated KMTV, according to a legal notice from 1968. Looks loooong dead.

    K75CG became K07TZ becmae K47IP. It's now gone, having been subsumed by another translator, KABI-LD, the ex-K79BB (69, 42).

    K75AG is now K27KV-D. It was owned by the same people as K71AI, bit its fate is different: it's owned by Nexstar and is listed as a KUCW translator (why KUCW instead of KTVX, I don't know, but the two are commonly owned).

    K76BJ became K39AG, which is still licensed and plans to move to 25. RabbitEars says it is a translator of KTVU.

    K76BC is now K24KT-D. It is owned by the same Leech Lake people as the other Walker translator. It is also a mux with KARE, KAWE and KSAX.

    W76AM was deleted. Looks to have been WNED.

    K76AT was deleted straight up.

    K77CI was in Willmar, Minnesota. It's actually in the UHF TV system there and rebroadcasts KSTC as K19IH-D. Given the owner, it might be a bit funky too.

    K77BW was in Grant Portage, Minnesota, and was deleted after becoming K53BH in 1983. WDSE was its source.

    K77CF was indeed KELP-TV -> KVIA. There is a silent analog translator for it there now, K40BP, which lists the prior callsign of "K77CP". Digital companion will be K21LR-D.

    K78BN became K47BD-D, now on 10.

    K78AA is now K32FR. A little worrisome that this and the other Orangeville station have no digital conversion plans on file.

    K79AA became K31FE‚ not the 29 or 33.

    K79AQ was owned by Palmer Broadcasting Company of Des Moines. That would make it KDLH-TV Duluth.

    K79BJ was the translator in Alpine. It and the Brewster County entry below are the same thing.

    K80CD was deleted in 1988. It rebroadcast KQED according to legal notices of the era.

    K80CK -> K50AK repeated WDIO-TV.

    Beatrice's K80 is K80CP. It operated with 20 watts.

    K80CO is now K25EN-D.

    K80CE is now K18FU-D (and still KTVX). The answer as to its lineage is neither: K65EP in 1989, K18FU in 2002.

    K80BW Bremerton is still around as K26IC-D, and it rebroadcasts KIRO.

    K81BR was some Yakima station, unspecified.

    K81BE appears to have been for KWSC-TV (now KWSU-TV). With high-power KTNW at Richland, it was likely replaced entirely. Wanna see a 1968 translator path delivery map? Here you go!

    K82AN is attested by newspaper clippings as being WHO-TV.

    K82AQ is listed as also RJR Communications (see above).

    K82AO is alive as K30PT-D with the COL of Kalispell and Lakeside. The FCC says it is a translator for KXLY Spokane...which means there are two sources of ABC programming to Kalispell (KTMF-LD).

    K82 Memphis TX is K82AZ.

    W83AB Detroit was licensed to...MPATI (the people with the airplanes!). It was apparently used alongside W79AE, which is outright missing from the old list. There were apparently two-translator sets planned/used at Parma, Ohio (Cleveland), Chicago, and Detroit, to improve reception from ground stations. Parma operated but I cannot find info on channels.

    W83AN was WLUK.

    K83BB didn't become channel 3, but rather K49BO. It was deleted in 2010.

    W83AH is now W34FC-D. It is a translator of KTTC in Rochester, Minnesota.
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    • #3
      I've learned a LOT more about these since the page on my website was written. I suspect you've filled in some holes regarding disposition of these things -- I'll merge that with other data..

      Yes, there's some interesting meat on the MPATI bone... There were two translators each at Cleveland, Chicago, and Detroit relaying the aircraft transmissions. (as you're probably aware, there were two transmitters in the aircraft, so they broadcast two programs simultaneously) The translators in Detroit had permission to relay WTVS-56 when the aircraft transmissions weren't available.

      Other interesting things happened in the land between channels 70 and 83. Like two LPTV stations authorized in the 1950s. And violent* confrontations between cable TV operators and translator operators.

      * violence against property, not people.
      Doug Smith W9WI
      Pleasant View, TN EM66
      http://www.w9wi.com

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