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    Some Channel 2 Spanish-language unIDs July 18, evening, at Burnt River ON. I largely suspect Mexico. But could be anywhere to my south/southwest.

    Uploaded audio clips (nothing much on video, which was either a mess or just semilocal Wiarton ON CTV) ended up out of order here, but they're labeled a-h and received here in that alphabetical order.

    a) Seems like news/talk, and either switches to drama late in the recording or the drama is a second station. I am hoping for something IDable in the news/talk, which mentions radio / television at one point, Centro America at another, and possibly Colombia. 1955 EDT

    b) More news/talk, not sure if same station as (a). 2004 EDT

    c) Man and woman with news / talk. Maybe same station. 2120 EDT

    d) News about the News of the World scandal in the U.K. I'm curious if there are any obvious propagandistic overtones which might rule in or rule out, say, Cuba or Venezuela. 2140 EDT

    e) More news, this time right after the previous clip and mentioning Centro Americana. 2143 EDT

    f) More of the same as (e). 2146 EDT

    g-b) Mentions Monterrey, then what I think is a separate station pops in with mention of Mexico. Back to what I think is the first station mentioning what sounds like Merido. 2155 EDT

    h) What sounds like theme music from the news program. I am hoping someone will recognize it. 2156 EDT

    With thanks to anyone who listens and/or comments.

    Saul Chernos
    Burnt River ON
    Saul Chernos
    Burnt River ON

  • #2
    Saul, I'm sorry that I can't help you with these unIDs. Hopefully, somebody can help.

    Without going into another of my long-winded essays on the pitfalls of IDing Mexico TV DX (which nobody ever reads), let me say this: Due to the way Mexico TV operates, I don't use audio to ID Mexico TV stations.
    Danny
    Shreveport, LA
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    • #3
      Saul,

      I am making a guess here, based on two clues, if this is all the same station.

      (1) In clip "g-b", Monterrey weather is mentioned at :28, but, at 1:00 it sure sounds like "maxima noventa grados" (high of 90 degrees, which would be Fahrenheit).

      (2) In clip "a", I hear "Univision" mentioned at 1:10.

      My guess? I think you caught WUVF-LP in Naples FL! Pat & Danny have caught them.

      www.univision.com might be streaming their national news, and you can check to see/hear if it matches.

      cd

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      • #4
        Saul,

        2 -- mixture, weather probably national; also mentions gobierno federal, i.e. Mexican PSA

        5 -- seems to be local talk about Mexico City. Of course that could still go out on a network

        6 -- mentions Univision -- either affiliated Televisa, or WUVF-LP (I sure would like to get that one!)

        7 -- "municipio de San Fernando" -- unfortunately there are probably lots of these; "todo el estado" but what state? At least it is a country with states like Mexico rather than provinces, departments, etc.

        8 -- this one is mentioning Murdoch. I did not hear anything about News of the World on the others, like d). I wonder if the clips are in the same order as your ) keys?

        That`s not much help but all I could make out of them.

        73, Glenn Hauser, OK

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        • #5
          Welcome to the Forums, Glenn.
          Danny
          Shreveport, LA
          Mexico/Latin America TV DX ID Tips http://www.tvdxtips.com
          Submit and read DTV Stats http://www.tvdxexpo.com/dtvdxrecords.html
          TV and DTV DX Photographs http://www.tvdxexpo.com
          My Photographs of 100 Mexico TV DX Local IDs http://www.tvdxexpo.com/100mexicotvids.html
          More than 1,100 TV logs since 1994

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          • #6
            I too suspect Mexico. The g-b cut has two, one carrying a nationwide PSA. The other one with news items and weather for Monterrey (temperatures in C.) seems to care for regional news, such as the item on San Fernando and Enrique Montero Higueras, director of ITEA. A Google search puts them in the same basket. And this particular San Fernando is in Tamaulipas, south of Reynosa-Matamoros.

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            • #7
              Am I the only one that heard a Fahrenheit temperature ("maxima noventa grados") at 1:00 of the g-b clip? That + the "univision" = WUVF-LP to me....

              Not trying to be contentious.....maybe my ears need cleaning.

              (There could be two or more SS's mixing it up.)

              cd

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              • #8
                Chris,

                I hear "máxima noventa grados Centígrados". That doesn't make sense, though...

                Jon
                Last edited by JonInFN03; 08-03-2011, 11:04 AM.

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                • #9
                  Now THAT's hot!!

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                  • #10
                    Unless there is a Univision elsewhere, other than in FL. Which Glenn alluded to mentioning Televisa. I'll have to look that up. I know as much about TV south of the U.S. border as I do about TV in Tajikstan. I did see the "7" bug with news earlier in the day (afternoon) to log Tamaulipas' Azteca 7, and I suspect that's one of the stations here again with audio in the evening. I am about to search on Televisa and Univision, to learn more...

                    BTW, my TV ignorance thus stated (I concentrate on FM), I have followed posts about Mexican TV by Danny and others, and am well aware of the view held by some that Mexican TV is incredibly tricky to ID. I guess, as is the case with CBC and other networks here in Canada, you need equipment that shows offsets and very exact frequencies to make proper surefire IDs in at least a few cases.

                    In my case, I'm using an old B&W set, and Jensen rabbit ears. It did well enough for analog Es before the switchover, and I managed a doublehop with Calgary 2 once that way, as well as Spanish audio on 2 and 4 (have a local on 3) *before* the switch. But signals to places like Mexico have been pretty rough. I've managed two of them on 2 from Mexico. It should be noted that Cuba is beyond single-hop for me but not for fellow DXers in Niagara Region and western NY. 80 miles or so is the differentiator. (I did log Cuba a few times with great sigs when I had a tower 20+ years ago).

                    Thanks to all who listened and posted.

                    Saul
                    Saul Chernos
                    Burnt River ON

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=cd637299;20305]Am I the only one that heard a Fahrenheit temperature ("maxima noventa grados") at 1:00 of the g-b clip? That + the "univision" = WUVF-LP to me....

                      Not trying to be contentious.....maybe my ears need cleaning.

                      (There could be two or more SS's mixing it up.)




                      Chris, there are two stations, but not just here. At 1:00 I am hearing "máxima de 20 grados".... and a bit later "22 grados", "25 grados"...

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                      • #12
                        I don't know where my posting landed. But to Chris may I say that, yes, there are two stations mixing, although not at 1:00 when the lady is saying "máxima de 20 grados" and just afterwards she mentions
                        "22 grados" and "25 grados".

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                        • #13
                          May I add that in Spanish the word "de" is needed in the phrase "/una/ máxima de 20 grados". Jon and Chris are both missing out on this little word which, IMHO, accounts for the misunderstanding.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saul View Post
                            I have followed posts about Mexican TV by Danny and others, and am well aware of the view held by some that Mexican TV is incredibly tricky to ID. I guess, as is the case with CBC and other networks here in Canada, you need equipment that shows offsets and very exact frequencies to make proper surefire IDs in at least a few cases.
                            l
                            You say "some" think Mexico TV is difficult to ID.

                            Saul, the only DXers who do not think Mexico TV is very difficult to ID are DXers who don't receive much TV DX from Mexico. The great majority of the stations "honestly" IDed by those DXers are the Televisa independents and XHRIO-2.

                            There are about 50 full-power Mexicans on channel 2 and about 70 low-powers on channel 2. Those are just the official stations. Who has "exact" frequencies for all of those stations?

                            Only about a dozen of those channel 2s are independents. Most of the others are 24/7 relayers of the Mexico City networks.

                            In May a DXer in New York state e-mailed me, asking about an ID he saw. He said a DXer in the northeastern U.S. said it was so-and-so station (a Televisa independent), but the ID was not on my TVDXTips.com. I told him so-and-so station has been using another ID for a few years, but the ID he saw may be an anniversary or other special event ID. A few days later, a DXer in South Carolina reported seeing the NY DXer's ID (on a Televisa independent), so I forwarded the tvfmdxlist post to him. In his reply to me, he agreed that the ID sounded like it was what he saw. However, he wouldn't count the station because the northeastern DXer told the NY DXer the station was the so-and-so station...
                            Last edited by Danny; 08-03-2011, 11:27 PM.
                            Danny
                            Shreveport, LA
                            Mexico/Latin America TV DX ID Tips http://www.tvdxtips.com
                            Submit and read DTV Stats http://www.tvdxexpo.com/dtvdxrecords.html
                            TV and DTV DX Photographs http://www.tvdxexpo.com
                            My Photographs of 100 Mexico TV DX Local IDs http://www.tvdxexpo.com/100mexicotvids.html
                            More than 1,100 TV logs since 1994

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                            • #15
                              Saul,
                              It is hard to identify TV by listening to an audio stream. So on July 18 between 1955 and 2155 EDT you may have had several stations and nets.

                              But if I may, I can explain what's in the a) cut. It's about a new anchorman for the Despierta América show on Univisión. He has just arrived from Colombia. He is identified as "Félix". Full name is Félix de Bédout, and he was scheduled to start on July 18.

                              As I am in Europe I am not sure if Univisión would carry local news from a Mexican state, such as the item on the b) cut, where Enrique Montero Higuera is giving a statement related to Tamaulipas.

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