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  • 4-20/21-11 Tropo

    All times GMT

    4-20-11

    23:43 KSPR 19/33 Springfield, MO. 250 mi.
    23:50 KLRT 30/16 Little Rock, AR. 265 mi.
    23:50 KARZ 44/42 Little Rock, AR. 265 mi.

    4-21-11

    00:33 KATV 22/7 Little Rock, AR. 265 mi. Over local KBSI. Rare.
    05:08 KSFX 28/27 Springfield, MO. 250 mi.
    05:11 KYTV 44/3 Springfield, MO. 250 mi.
    05:15 KNWA 50/51 Rogers, AR. 315 mi.
    05:46 KODE 43/12 Joplin, MO. 335 mi.
    05:49 KOZJ 25/26 Joplin, MO. 335 mi. "OPT"
    06:11 WLOV 16/27 West Point, MS. 210 mi.
    06:11 KOLR 10 Springfield, MO. 250 mi.
    06:49 KAFT 9/13 Fayetteville, AR. 315 mi. Over local WQWQ-LP.
    07:28 KSNF 46/16 Joplin, MO. 335 mi.
    07:39 KWBM 31 Harrison, AR. 260 mi. No PSIP data. Ch # shows 31-3. Odd.
    07:45 KMYT 42/41 Tulsa, OK. 405 mi.
    07:58 KFSM 18/5 Fort Smith, AR. 340 mi.
    07:59 KOTV 45/6 Tulsa, OK. 405 mi.
    08:37 KAKE 10 Wichita, KS. 500 mi.
    08:42 KSNW 45/3 Wichita, KS. 500 mi.
    08:43 KSAS 26/24 Wichita, KS. 500 mi.
    08:45 KDCU 31 Derby, KS. 485 mi. "Univisi"
    08:47 KOZK 23/21 Springfield, MO. 250 mi. "OPT"
    08:51 KOED 11 Tulsa, OK. 405 mi.
    08:59 KEMV 13/6 Mountain View, AR. 225 mi.
    11:07 KMTW 35/36 Hutchinson, KS. 525 mi.
    11:31 KWCH 19/12 Hutchinson, KS. 525 mi.

    The "atta-boy" award goes to KODE Joplin, MO. It was nearly solid copy for six hours!

    73, Ed NN2E
    Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds
    Benton, KY. EM56
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    Last edited by NN2E; 04-21-2011, 03:22 PM.
    "You Might Be a Redneck If...
    Your TV is on 24/7.
    Your TV has been permanently on for over a decade.
    The only time your TV is off is during a power outage.
    Your TV gets 512 channels, but you go outside to use the bathroom.
    Your new TV is sitting on top of your old TV.
    Your TV costs more than all of your other furniture.
    Your deer-stand has a TV antenna on it.
    Your cable provider has no idea that you exist."
    Jeff Foxworthy

  • #2
    Regarding KWBM "31.3".... In most cases the main channel of a DTV station is "really" ".3". The PSIP maps it to ".1" with the proper virtual channel number. For KWBM, that means the signal is transmitted as 31.3 and with PSIP is becomes 31.1. With no PSIP data being sent, the converter keeps it as 31.3.

    Recently my semi-local WNJU DT36 (virtual channel 47) was not transmitting any PSIP data. So instead of showing up as "47.1" as it normally would, the converter displayed it's "real" channel, "36.3".

    Take a look at listings on the rabbitears.info website... all stations are listed with their real (physical) channel and the PSIP virtual channel.
    Chris - Poughkeepsie, NY
    DTV DXer since April 2009
    See last 24hr DTV DX on Autologger Map here: https://rabbitears.info/tvdx/one_tun...01803EF/tuner1
    DTV DX screenshots at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dtvdxer/sets
    DTV DX Videos at: http://www.youtube.com/user/dtvdxer

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    • #3
      Thanks, Chris.

      What's odd is, I think (going from memory... not always reliable... these all-night DXing sessions are tough on us old people) the last time I saw KWBM it had it's call letters in the PSIP data.

      It was originally logged back on August 25, 09. I don't pay real close attention to a station after it's been logged. From that time onward I treat it as just another station that's in the way of something else on that channel.

      73, Ed NN2E
      Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds
      Last edited by NN2E; 04-21-2011, 06:31 PM.
      "You Might Be a Redneck If...
      Your TV is on 24/7.
      Your TV has been permanently on for over a decade.
      The only time your TV is off is during a power outage.
      Your TV gets 512 channels, but you go outside to use the bathroom.
      Your new TV is sitting on top of your old TV.
      Your TV costs more than all of your other furniture.
      Your deer-stand has a TV antenna on it.
      Your cable provider has no idea that you exist."
      Jeff Foxworthy

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      • #4
        DTV DXing is really not an area I do anything with; I am lucky to get some local channels in viewable quality. However, I CAN get KWBM. I am not sure why; their transmitter or towers or whatever must be closer to me than Harrison, AR or their signal directs my way or it has great power. Why I am bothering to post here is so I can understand what PSIP is. Is this what make the TV channel number come up the way they want it? Is it what makes the call sign come up on the info box about the station? I am assuming it is, as you say it is lacking for you or not setting the number to 31.1. It comes up for me as 31.3 as well, and the call sign does not show up in the little information box.

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        • #5
          Here's the KWBM service contour map from the FCC database....

          http://maps.google.com/?q=http://www...SON%26state=AR

          ...as you can see, the KWBM transmitter is closer to Branson than it is to Harrison.

          As I'm not very good with detailed technical explanations see if this Wiki article helps explain PSIP...

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program...ation_Protocol

          73, Ed NN2E
          Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds
          "You Might Be a Redneck If...
          Your TV is on 24/7.
          Your TV has been permanently on for over a decade.
          The only time your TV is off is during a power outage.
          Your TV gets 512 channels, but you go outside to use the bathroom.
          Your new TV is sitting on top of your old TV.
          Your TV costs more than all of your other furniture.
          Your deer-stand has a TV antenna on it.
          Your cable provider has no idea that you exist."
          Jeff Foxworthy

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          • #6
            Thanks for posting the link for the map data. The terrain is quite hilly down where the pinpoint is, so I assume that might inform about the location. Of course, Harrison is in a hilly area too.

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            • #7
              I recall getting KWBM back during the analog era quite often here, they were a former sister station to KARZ (then KWBF-TV). Still have some screencaps somewhere of them. Last time I logged KWBM (DT) they were running Daystar en stretchovision. Also Ed, good catch of KATV, my strongest signal from Shinall Mtn down here.

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              • #8
                Yes, KWBM was still running Daystar programming...that much I do remember for sure. :-)

                KATV has shown up a few times in the past but it has to climb over KBSI at Cape Girardeau, MO. KBSI has a BIG signal even though it's 70 miles from here so it's not too often KATV makes it through. I see, in the FCC database, KBSI has filled a CP to go from 435 KW to 705 KW. I still need WCPO DT-22 Cincinnati so I hope I can get that one logged before KBSI turns up the wick.

                KARZ and KLRT are the two Little Rock stations (265 mi) I use as benchmarks. They show up on a fairly regular basis. KARZ is the better of the two.

                I had enough signal from KARK DT-32 to completely wipe out local WPSD at Paducah. The DTT-901 signal meter went to zero. If only WPSD would have gone off for a couple of seconds I'd have had KARK. No such luck. :-(

                73, Ed NN2E
                Owner / Operator - Murphy's Law Test Site & Thunderstorm Proving Grounds
                "You Might Be a Redneck If...
                Your TV is on 24/7.
                Your TV has been permanently on for over a decade.
                The only time your TV is off is during a power outage.
                Your TV gets 512 channels, but you go outside to use the bathroom.
                Your new TV is sitting on top of your old TV.
                Your TV costs more than all of your other furniture.
                Your deer-stand has a TV antenna on it.
                Your cable provider has no idea that you exist."
                Jeff Foxworthy

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