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  • Mike-CT
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    Several observations from South Florida:

    Just changed them.
    Last edited by Mike-CT; 06-05-2024, 08:09 PM.

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  • no2cw
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    Several observations from South Florida:
    1.WMXR-LP Miami 92.7 mHz - Vibe 92.7 miami transmits PI 76BF
    2.W241DI Miami 96.1 mHz translates WACC 830 Am - Spanish Catholic transmits PI 54DE
    3.W296DK 107.1 mHz Fort Lauderdale, FL transmits Hebrew music programming - As of May 2024 no longer transmits PI code 6305. it has now changed to PI Code D47E​
    4. WHIM-LP 99.5 mHz Hialeah, FL transmits PI Code FFFF
    5. W280FV transmits 8B3F and relays WURN Actualidad Radio
    Last edited by no2cw; 05-31-2024, 12:27 PM.

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  • Mike-CT
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    I will take a look at those when I get the chance.

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  • no2cw
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    Notes from Orlando, FL. Some additional work may be needed to confirm these.
    93.1 W226BT transmits PI D147. Currently the database has D11B
    93.9 W230AL transmits PI 7B02
    96.9 W245CL transmits PI D481
    97.9 W250CE transmits PI F000
    98.5 WSBH transmits 8451 currently listed as 8452
    102.5 W273CA not listed in database transmits PI D11B. Seems to have been equipment swap. ID "La Zeta" 104.7 Kissimmee
    103.5 ??? transmits PI 63F6
    104.7 W279DI transmits PI 7DC9 (parent station)​
    Last edited by no2cw; 11-29-2023, 08:56 PM.

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  • WHJ
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    For my listings I show what is being transmitted in red. I like to also log the correct PI code to make it easy to figure things out if they switch to the correct code (which they did for the two blank lines on my list).

  • Mike-CT
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    For the FM database we want the PI that the station is transmitting, not what it should be transmitting. Here in CT, one group of stations keeps moving equipment around between the stations it owns in CT and the stations it owns in MA. You have CT translators showing RDS with MA PI codes, and the reverse. I'm sure we are not alone.

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  • WHJ
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    The FCC rules [74.1231(b)] requires the programming retransmitted by translators operating on commercial frequencies to be received from the primary station off-air. Some translators use receivers which take the primary signal down to an Intermediate Frequency (IF). That IF is converted to a different FM frequency which the translator transmits. The received programming, RBDS, SCA and even HD cannot be changed.

    Other "translators" just used regular receivers and transmitters with audio in-between. The RBDS and SCA can be changed if desired. HD is expensive to recreate.

  • Russ-PA
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    A couple of points to remember are that some station owners set up their translators to reflect the 'parent' stations' PI info rather than the D prefix PI which might apply. At other times where multiple stations are linked as part of a regional network, the PI code may be altered when programs are relayed from the primary and with the 'correct' PI code when programming is local. A few non-commercial statewide networks in KS & NE do this, and there are others I can't recall right now.
    Last edited by Russ-PA; 11-11-2023, 10:11 AM.

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  • WHJ
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    The are a bunch of incorrect PI codes being transmitted here as well. Some are just due to translating at the RF/IF level where modulation changes cannot be made. The incorrect code being transmitted is in red.
    88.1 KMLV 1129 Should be A3E3
    88.3 KQIQ 3DF9 Should be 3B20
    90.1 KZLW 3DF9 Should be 5338
    90.5 KGKD 0000 Should be A2DF
    91.7 KSSH 3DF9 Should be 4163
    91.9 K220GT 1E67 Should be D2D1
    92.7 K224DJ 3DF9 Should be D21B
    94.1 KQCH-HD FFFF Should be 3A7B
    94.5 K233AN 12C8 Should be D205
    95.7 KNNA 3DF9 Should be 33A6
    95.9 K240FD 366F Should be D5AF
    97.7 KBBX 0000 Should be 12D5
    98.1 KFGE AF96 Should be 1DD4
    98.9 KKPR FFFF Should be 2BFF
    98.9 K255DF 2485 Should be D2D3
    98.9 K255CS 2859 Should be D37C
    99.3 K257GW 3DF9 Should be D12C
    99.3 K257EF 2D55 Should be D1D9
    99.3 K257FK 495A Should be D263
    100.3 KDVV 6691 Should be 1A23
    101.5 KMKF 30B9 Should be A3B9
    101.5 K268DF 1EB1 Should be D2C9
    103.3 K277CD 2D55 Should be D116
    103.3 K277CA 2E56 Should be D1AC
    103.5 K278CI 366F Should be D38F
    103.9 KNLV 2678 Should be 3387
    105.7 KSUX 0000 Should be 41A7
    106.9 K295BC 3DF9 Should be D2DE
    107.9 KJTM 2859 Should be 29BE
    Last edited by WHJ; 11-10-2023, 11:45 PM.

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  • Mike-CT
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    I'll check them out. You have 5 translators beginning with D that probably need to be changed in the database. -Mike

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  • no2cw
    started a topic Database revisions, updates, etc.

    Database revisions, updates, etc.

    During my scan in Raleigh, NC I notices a few differences between the wtfda database and what I was seeing on my radio. While not 100 % sure these are missing or erroneous entries, it may be worth for someone local to check on these and may be validate them them as permanent database updates.

    91.9 WFSS shows 63C2 in my scan
    93.5 W228CZ seems to transmit D2E7
    95.3 W237BZ seems to transmit D1E1
    95.7 W239CK seems to transmit D382
    97.9 W250AZ seems to transmit FF00
    99.3 W257CS seems to transmit D339
    102.3 WKJO? seems to transmit 7008
    103.5 WRCQ seems to transmit 081D not 81D0
    105.7 W289BD seems to transmit D21F
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